Episode 4 - Lis Best on Climate Action, Emotional Resilience & Change-Making
If we want lasting change, we need to make impact work more sustainable. In this episode, Dr. Payal Beri is joined by impact leader Lis Best to explore the emotional toll of change-making and how to sustain yourself in the fight for a better world.
Lis shares her journey from corporate sustainability to building a community for women driving impact, unpacking the harsh realities of burnout, the hidden cost of caring deeply, and why change so often feels like an uphill battle.
Throughout the conversation, Payal and Lis explore the truth about working in sustainability and ESG, and Lis explains the challenge of influencing change in corporate systems, especially when people seem indifferent or resistant. She also shares invaluable insights on emotional resilience, and emphasizes the power of community, reminding us that no one should carry the weight of the world alone — and that collective support is key to creating sustainable change.
If you’ve ever felt exhausted or disillusioned while trying to make a difference, this episode is for you! Lis’s wisdom and lived experience will inspire you to keep going — without sacrificing your well-being in the process. Make sure you're subscribed to the podcast to keep catching impactful conversations like this each week!
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In This Episode:
00:00 Introduction to Lis Best and Setting the Stage
00:30 The Reality of Impact Work
03:04 Early Career Challenges and Breakthroughs
04:39 Navigating Corporate Sustainability
08:53 The Emotional Toll and Burnout
13:54 Strategies for Sustainable Impact
25:47 Redefining Ambition and Success
35:18 Personal Reflections and Future Directions
44:39 Lis's Journey to Motherhood
49:59 Conclusion and Contact Information
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